富尔茨怪异投篮再现江湖,伤病还是心理作用?美JRs已不忍直视

发表于 讨论求助 2021-05-05 18:09:27

富尔茨怪异投篮再现江湖,伤病还是心理作用?美JRs已不忍直视


[–]MavericksTexastochina11 2117 指標 7小時前

Marv Albert: "Fultz hits a 3!"

ten seconds later

Marv: "They say it didn't actually go in!"

马夫-阿尔伯特:富尔茨三分球进!

十秒钟过后

马夫-阿尔伯特:哦,现场裁判表示这球没有进。{译注1}

{译注1}:马夫-阿尔伯特,美国体育解说。不做功课经常说错话、认错人。

[–][CHI] Kris Dunngulaabjaman 413 指標 7小時前

I think he'd mistake Fultz for Redick.

我觉得按他的尿性,他会把富尔茨当成雷迪克。

[–]ralphrackstraw 46 指標 5小時前

"He had a foot on the line. Now they're saying he missed, so it doesn't matter anyway. And the Sixers aren't actually even playing today."

(模仿马夫-阿尔伯特):“哦,富尔茨脚踩线了,哦,现场裁判表示没进所以踩不踩线都无所谓了。哦 ,今天76人没有比赛。”

[–][SAC] De'Aaron FoxBoxcar-Mike 607 指標 7小時前 

that ain't no way to treat a basketball, son.

不能这样对待篮球啊,我的儿。

[–]Trail Blazersiheartquokkas 150 指標 5小時前 

Not my #1 pick

这不是我的状元。{译注2}

{译注2}此处模仿美国网友喷特朗普“Not my president”这不是我的总统

[–][NYK] Metta World Peace6eezus 853 指標 7小時前 

shot machine brok tri again latr

这台投篮机坏了,一会儿再来吧。{译注3}

{译注3}:美国网友抱怨麦当劳冰淇淋机器总坏,这是麦当劳动作人员每次的说辞。

[–]supertoastergod 147 指標 7小時前 

Understandable, have a nice day

完全能理解,给您拜个早年呐。

[–]RaptorsKF7SPECIAL 732 指標 7小時前

Lmao they need to lock this kid in some dojo up in the Himalayas and keep him away from cameras until he learns how to shoot a basketball

哈哈哈笑死我了,76人教练组真应该把富尔茨关到喜马拉雅山那边的训练场去,在他学会投篮之前都别再把摄像机对准他了。

[–]CottonBalls26 146 指標 5小時前*

Ra's al Ghul can fix his shot?

It's like Fultz has Lou Gehrig's disease/ALS and has no strength left in his arms

拉尔斯-艾尔-古尔能拯救他的投篮吗?{译注4}

富尔茨看起来就像患有ALS,他的手臂好像一点力气也没有。{译注5}

{译注4}:拉尔斯·艾尔·古尔是美国DC漫画旗下超级反派,蝙蝠侠的师傅,曾游历世界各国研究医疗。

{译注5}:卢-格里克,美国历史上传奇棒球运动员,最终因“肌萎缩性脊髓侧索硬化症”的疾病退出赛场,该疾病简称ALS。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rosejeric13xd 23 指標 5小時前

How can someone just forget how to shoot a basketball?? Who the fuck cast an evil curse on this kid

怎么会有人能把怎么投篮这种事给忘了呢?到底是哪个女巫给他施了毒咒啊?

[–]Grizzliestrump_2-0_1-6 994 指標 7小時前 

76ers fans on suicide watch

快把天台的门锁好,别让76人球迷上去!

[–]Celticsiritian 334 指標 7小時前 

Stock in Fultz Island is at an all time low

富尔茨股持续走低,赶紧抛出!

[–]Lakerslebbe 45 指標 6小時前 

Sell Fultzcoin and load the truck on Hibbertcoin!!!!

湖人球迷:快卖掉你手里的富尔茨币,囤一波希伯特币吧!!!{译注6}

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[–]Warriorsunequivocalotter 1121 指標 7小時前 

How tf does this happen? I mean I guess it must be more complex than I could imagine but why can’t they just sit him down and work thru his mechanics?

怎么TM会有这种事?我知道这事肯定没我想的那么简单,但为什么76人教练组就不能把他按到椅子上好好纠正一下他的投篮姿势啊?

[–]76ersgustriandos 778 指標 7小時前

That is what they're doing... it's just not working

76人球迷:他们一直在干这事啊……就是没啥效果。

[–]WarriorsArondelaAbleton 360 指標 6小時前

Look at his shot motion... despite his release being weird, he now has a 1 motion shot as opposed to a 2 motion shot. That's better, more like Curry. They still have to fix his release though.

勇士球迷:看看他的投篮动作,尽管出手姿势有点奇怪,但他现在已经能够拔起就投而不是像以前那样拖泥带水了。这一点确实变好了,而且也更像库里。不过教练组确实还要再给富尔茨更正一下他的出手姿势。

[–]Heataccdodson 442 指標 6小時前* 

Barely. He still keeps the ball at his chest for way too long

凑合着那么回事吧。但他把球停在胸前的时间太长了。

It seems like he's trying to shoot it from his chest by going straight up from there. Which is really bad. Curry basically has this form but without the pause, one fluid motion off the dribble. He adopted the worse aspects of a fast release and slow release.

他看起来就好像想直接从胸前出手。这真是太糟糕了。库里差不多也是这种投法但他不会停顿,运球之后出手的动作一气呵成。富尔茨则刚好用在快出手和慢出手两种动作里去其精华取其糟粕。

[–]HeatSedfvgt 85 指標 6小時前 

Curry brings the ball above his eyebrows though ... so he doesn't have this form.

但库里是把球放在眉毛上方的……所以这不是库里的投法。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookAtlasTelamon24 96 指標 6小時前 

And that hitch is horrible.

他那个停顿太糟糕了。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rosepakidude17 31 指標 5小時前

That jumper is just begging to get blocked.

那跳投就是奔着被盖去的啊。

[–]CUETEEPIE 30 指標 6小時前

Yeah, his shot is so slow that even if he becomes super accurate, I don't see him getting it off in the nba unless he has a bunch of space between his defender. His shot currently looks like a kid's shot who isn't strong enough to release from a higher point. Curry doesn't have a very high release, but like you said, he doesn't pause at his chest and it's lightning quick.

是,哪怕他以后变得神准这样的出手也太慢了,我觉得他这种打法在NBA肯定不灵,除非防他的人全放他大空位投篮。他现在的投篮看起来就像一个小学生投出来的,因为缺乏力量导致出手点不够高。库里的出手点也不高,但前面的哥们说了,库里会“嗖”地一下把球投出去而不是在胸前停半天啊。

[–]TimberwolvesDrWolves 140 指標 7小時前 

It's literally the yips. He's in his own head at this point

这一看就是运动障碍性疾病,他好像投篮的时候想太多了。{译注7}

{译注7}:Yips最早出现在高尔夫运动员中,是一种运动障碍性疾病,主要表现为腕关节不自主的痉挛、抽动。Yips分神经性和心理性两种。年龄越大,经验越丰富,标准杆数越少则越容易患神经性Yips。而心理性的Yips可发生在任何年龄,任何经验水平,当运动员一旦Yips发作,他就会丧失信心,在推杆进洞时,担心Yips再次发作,形成Yips的恶性循环。

[–]redjays93 297 指標 6小時前 

dude shoots like my uncle who’s never played a pickup game in his life but came to the backyard to say hello and took a shot before going back in the house

这哥们投篮好像我舅舅啊,他老人家这辈子没打过比赛,只不过偶尔到后院溜达的时候临走之前会投个篮。

[–][GSW] Monta EllisMitz510 87 指標 5小時前 

"Let me get another shot. I was just warming up."

你舅舅是不是还说“我再试一次啊,这次算热身。”

[–]Rocketshtown_hold_it_down 101 指標 6小時前

This is not the yips. You dont change your shooting form to this busted ass shit because of the yips.

Either his shoulder was wayyyy more fucked up than reported or somebody needs to be fired in Philly

这可不是运动障碍性疾病。这种病不会把人的投篮姿势变得丑的像坨屎。

要么是富尔茨肩膀的伤势比实际报道严重一万倍,要么就是76人的教练组里有人就该被炒鱿鱼了。

[–]Trail Blazersdenverblazer 27 指標 6小時前

I agree with you. At this point though it might be both.

同意。目前来看的话你说的两种情况怕是都要发生。

[–]HeatRahnamatta 17 指標 6小時前 

Reggie Miller mechanics were not too pretty... but he was great.

雷吉-米勒的投篮姿势也不咋好看,但是他准呐。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiidwikitiki350 95 指標 6小時前 

Unfortunately I don't get the feeling fultz is going to pull a Reggie Miller

76人球迷:大兄弟我有一个不幸的消息要告诉你,我不觉得富尔茨的投篮在未来能达到神射手雷吉-米勒的水准。震惊不?!

[–]Cavaliershelpwanted1 133 指標 7小時前

He didn't shoot like this in college though It looks like whatever injury he had effected his range of motion and now instead of going through his legs he's pushing through his chest.

富尔茨大学的的时候不是这样投篮的。看起来他的伤好像影响了他的运动范围,现在他不能用腿发力,只能通过胸口用力把球推出去。

[–]Celticsnikebauerr 587 指標 7小時前

This is just bizarre. Wtf happened to this kid?

简直匪夷所思啊。这孩子到底怎么了?

[–]Trail Blazersyargdpirate 448 指標 7小時前 

On a positive note, I no longer feel as bad about my shitty jumper

积极的方面是,我不觉得我的垃圾跳投那么糟糕了呀。

[–][CLE] Derrick RoseSlashed45 170 指標 6小時前

I mean I'm 5'5, fat and not athletic and his jumper looks a LOT like mine so I know that's a bad shot

呃我1.68米,又胖运动能力又差。但富尔茨的跳投超级像我,所以我想他的投篮确实太糟糕了。

[–][SEA] Jeff GreenOrneryOnion 68 指標 6小時前

It cant be Fultz bad, just keep at it

我不信你会像富尔茨那么差,老哥别妄自菲簙呀。

[–]HuskiesFetyekovich 56 指標 5小時前* 

It seems mental. I don't know if you follow baseball. But, there have been a few guys that got in thrir head and could just not throw anymore. Rick Ankiel was a pretty decent pitcher something happened and he literally could not throw a strike. After a year of trying to fix his machincs gave up and spent a year in minors and came back as a outfielder.

我觉得是心理上的问题。不知道这里有没有人看MLB。MLB里有过一些选手因为心理问题再也没法投球了。Rick Ankiel曾经是一个很棒的投手,但发生了一些事之后他就再也没法投出一个球了。他在MLB的小联盟待了一年也没能找回投球手感,最后选择回去做了个外场手。

[–]76ersMacMac105 30 指標 4小時前 

Happens a lot. Chuck Knoblock (spell) went from a great defenive middle infielder to hitting Keith Olberman's mom in the face errant throws to first just out of nowhere.

In high school one of our pitchers stopped being able to play catch. He could pitch and make throws in the field but just having a toss to warm up before the game became impossible for him. He'd sail throws 10 feet over my head or spike the ball a couple feet in front of himself. It was so weird.

这种情况确实经常发生。Chuck Knoblock(大概是叫这个名字)本来是个很棒的中内野手,结果他的一次投球匪夷所思地绕过一垒手击中了观众席里Keith Olberman的妈妈的脸。[译注8]

高中的时候我们有个投手没法参加比赛了。他本来在场地里投掷都完全没问题,结果后来变得赛前热身也投不了球。他要么就会把球扔得高过我头顶三米,要么就掉到自己眼前。

这确实让人费解。

[译注8]:其实是 Chuck Knoblauch,美国MLB球员,曾在一次比赛的投掷中击中观众席里Keith Olberman(一位美国体育评论员)的母亲。

[–][CHI] John SalmonsThonMaker_KDplusKG 592 指標 7小時前

Looking like Eric Gordon's 2K form lol

他投篮的姿势好像2K里的埃里克-戈登啊哈哈哈。

76ersColeTrickleVroom 70 指標 5小時前 

He was a good shooter in college which is what makes this more odd/worse.

76人球迷:让人绝望的是他在大学明明是个很棒的射手啊。

[–]RocketsStrangeMachines 380 指標 7小時前

I'ts so bizarre that a clip of this dude shooting a three or any jump shot gets so much attention.

Man that looks ugly.

我更奇怪的是富尔茨随便一个投三分或者跳投的剪辑都能有这么大的关注度。

这姿势真心丑得辣眼睛。

[–]LakersFaptainSparrow 261 指標 7小時前

Crazy how the #1 and 2 draft picks this year have such terrible shooting forms. Something that should have been corrected a long time ago.

搞笑的是今年的状元和榜眼投篮姿势都这么辣眼睛。这些毛病难道不是早早就该被改正的吗?

[–]TimberwolvesWheedMBoise 320 指標 6小時前

Fultz had a perfectly fine jumper before the draft though. Honestly if he didn't, he probably wouldn't have gone number one.

富尔茨在选秀之前跳投明明美如画的。讲道理要不是这样他恐怕也当不了状元啊。

[–]CelticsM0NETY 141 指標 7小時前 

“It’s just our medical staff and communication issues. He’s fine.”

凯尔特人球迷:

76人教练组说“其实只是我们的医疗组和公关出了问题,富尔茨一直好好的。”

[–]76ersKhanstipated 499 指標 7小時前 

Sixers brought in Embiid's shooting coach Drew Hanlen to work with Fultz. Hanlen has worked with Beal, Lavine, Wiggins, and Clarkson. Someone on r/Sixers dm'd Hanlen and he confirmed he was going to work with Fultz.

Here's to hoping Fultz gets the same white people shooting vids Embiid got.

76人球迷:76人已经让恩比德的投篮训练师德鲁-汉伦来训练富尔茨。比尔、拉文、威金斯和克拉克森也都和汉伦训练过。有人在论坛的76人专区问过汉伦,他也证实了自己确实会和富尔茨一起训练。

让我们祈祷富尔茨能练出恩比德那一手白人投射吧。

[–]TimberwolvesGopherNutz 228 指標 7小時前

Hanlen's done a lot to help Wiggins so hopefully he can build Markelle's confidence back up. That head drop after the jumper is a heartbreaker. I hope this kid figures things out.

汉伦真的帮了威金斯很多,但愿他能让富尔茨重拾自信。富尔茨看到球没进之后垂着头的样子真让人心疼。希望这孩子能早日走出阴影。

[–]Raptorsraptorsbucketnator 177 指標 7小時前 

This is inexplicable.

这事可以被列入人类未解之谜了。

[–]CavaliersGarfield-1-23-23 163 指標 6小時前

We had the worst #1 draft pick of all time (Anthony Bennett), but at least we could let him play in public for a while. It's inconceivable to me that a pick could be so much worse that his team can't even let him practice in public.

骑士球迷:我们选过史上最水的状元——本内特,但好歹我们敢让他上场打一会啊。我真不敢相信一个状元居然可以糟糕到他的球队都不敢让他公开训练。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rosepakidude17 41 指標 5小時前

It's a really interesting comparison. The thing that really did Bennett in imo, aside from being a bad basketball player, was that his confidence was shot.

You'd hate for something like that to happen to another number 1 pick.

有趣的对比。我想真正让本内特水掉的,除了天赋问题,就是他已经完全没有自信了。

没人想看到这种悲剧在另一个状元身上重演。

[–]RaptorsJokicIsTheBlackShaq 497 指標 7小時前

Idgaf what anybody says this is troublesome and it shouldn't just be "he's only 19!!!!!!!"

Dude looks like the pressure got to him and he just forgot how to play

我TM才不管别人说什么,这肯定是个问题,不要光喊“他才十九岁!”来搪塞了。

他看起来好像有点受不住这种压力,都忘了怎么打球了。

[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 337 指標 7小時前

It's both. It's troubling and he's 19

咋说呢。这确实是个问题,但他也确实才19岁啊。

[–]RaptorsJokicIsTheBlackShaq 144 指標 7小時前

Of course he has time to get better but my god this is extremely worrying imo.

富尔茨确实还年轻,但我觉得这种情况不管怎么说都够让人担心了。

[–]PelicansGood_NewsEveryone 117 指標 7小時前

Yes. One of the weirdest situations I can remember.

谁说不是呢。简直是我长这么大遇到过最奇怪的事之一了。

[–]Eastpanofsteel 231 指標 7小時前 

How does Boston keep getting away with it????

谁来管管凯尔特人?!不能让他们这么继续逍遥法外。

[–]CelticsPepeSylvia11 133 指標 6小時前 

Ainge lives on another plane of thought

凯尔特人球迷:安吉是高智慧生物。

[–]Knickskingofnaps69 25 指標 6小時前

dont kid yourself this happening was a complete anomaly

楼上别搞笑啦这就是个意外吧。

[–][CLE] Kyle Korverramborage 98 指標 6小時前

Idk. Then trading out of the top spot and completely avoiding Fultz makes me believe they knew something we didn’t. I have a really hard time believing this is all a coincidence.

我可不敢说。把状元签交易出去,刚好避开富尔茨,这种做法让我觉得管理层肯定知道一些我们球迷不知道的事情。这一切都是巧合?我不这么认为。

[–]CelticsTheRealAlexisOhanian 68 指標 6小時前

I think its a stretch to say the Celtics knew Fultz would be this bad, especially they targeted Tatum who's been really good.

凯尔特人球迷:说凯尔特人本来就知道富尔茨会这么水这也太夸张了,再说塔特姆表现一直很好,凯尔特人确实想选他。

[–]Knickskingofnaps69 26 指標 5小時前 

simple case of Fultz wildly underperforming, Tatum overperforming. Ainge is a great GM sure, but no one knew this would happen.

简单来说其实就是富尔茨表现远远不如预期,而塔特姆超出预期。安吉是个出色的球队经理没错,但现在这种情况神仙也算不到吧。

[–]Celticssleetx 27 指標 4小時前 

WHO KNEW DRAFTING COULD BE SO COMPLICATED??

凯尔特人球迷:谁能想到选秀也是门大学问呢?

[–]Knickskingofnaps69 25 指標 6小時前 

Ainge and Ainge alone knew that Fultz would fuck up his form in such a way that would mess up the beginning of his career? that's pretty hard to believe.

It's pretty well known that Aigne has a hard-on for long, athletic multi-skilled wings (Smart, Brown, Ojeleye), it's 10x more likely that Ainge just went after the talent archetype that he's been going after all these years (re: Justise Winslow)

你是说安吉(而且只有他一个人)早就料到富尔茨会搞砸他的投篮姿势,还因此把他职业生涯的开端搅得一团糟?这也太扯了。

安吉追求高个子,技术丰富、运动能力好的侧翼(像斯玛特、布朗、奥杰莱这种)这一点人尽皆知,所以更有可能安吉只是依照这么多年以来自己心里的天赋模板在做选择。(模板参见贾斯蒂斯-温斯洛)

[–]CelticsTotallyNotGlenDavis 35 指標 5小時前

Of course he didn't know Fultz would change his shot but it definitely seems Ainge was not nearly as high on Fultz as most GMs, who considered him the consensus number one prospect

凯尔特人球迷:安吉肯定不会想到富尔茨会改变投篮姿势啦,但几乎可以肯定安吉对富尔茨的评价远没有其它球队经理那么高,那些人可一致认为富尔茨应该是状元。


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